Brazil is rebuilding South America. It is very interesting that in the case of Venezuela and Guyana, the appeal made has been answered and the outcome is positive. I have no illusions. I'm not saying this means a solution to the problem. But if you can prevent certain issues from being explosive at that moment, that is already a victory.
I said that if a new meeting were simply scheduled, that would be a victory. We didn't go much further with a declaration of principles. The most important thing is that both sides refrain from using violence and threats. Brazil has not only proven that it can be present. But it can help.
Chad: In both the Ukrainian case and Gaza, the Security Council found itself at an impasse. We all know that the body no longer represents today's world. But what to do now? What reform proposal does Brazil want to present?
Amorim: The awareness that reforms are necessary is already a very positive thing. This awareness is now very widespread. I have worked with it for many years. Together with the President of the General Assembly, I wrote to him about what could be a reform that would bring something closer to what the United Nations is today. For a reform to become institutionalized, it must go through the UN.
Now I think that reforms today, as in all other times in the international system, have to come from the outside in. Our role in the G20 will therefore be important. I don't think we can push through reform in the G20. China sees it this way, Japan sees it differently, the USA sees it differently. Therefore, it is not the right place for reform. But so that the idea of reform can be strengthened. I think this will take some time.
Chad: Lula went to the USA in the first months of the government. Mister. Do you think Joe Biden has squashed the ambitions of the proposed relationship?