“Special operation? We see the war.” Close question and answer, until eight and a half, in between Lili Gruber and the Russian journalist Nadana Fridrikhson, followed several times by the moderator on the subject of war in Ukraine. On La7, the correspondent for the patriotic channel Zvezda, owned by the Moscow Defense Ministry, has actually made herself the spokeswoman for the same arguments backed by the Kremlin, leading to constant teasing from the hostess. In fact, Lilli, annoyed, constantly countered her colleague.
That arrows von Gruber started immediately. The La7 presenter, who introduces Nadana Fridrikhson to the public, actually pushed the Russian reporter towards the Donbass, the area where Moscow’s offensive is concentrated. “Not even the Russian speakers in the area welcome you with great joy, also because the Russians are carpet bombing…” Lilli commented. And the journalist from Zvezda: “Russia never occupied Donbass, it never was and never will be”. At the same time, the woman also said that she visited Mariupol to collect testimonies “about the crimes of the Azov group and soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.” A version that Gruber promptly put down: “There is propaganda on both sides, many of these facts have yet to be proven.”
However, the lively confrontation literally ignited when the presenter of La7 asked her colleague what term she uses to define armed intervention in Ukraine. ‘I call it like all the people who recognize what it is, that’s a’special operation Military. If Russia had started this war against Ukraine, the story would be completely different. So what we’re seeing and what you’re seeing is special operations,” said Nadana Fridrikhson. Adamantly and categorically Gruber: “We continue to see a war, but I’m sorry. We see the pictures too, we see so much destruction and also so many dead.”
And then off: another question, another confrontation. Tireless. To an ideal Dialectical ring, Lilli and Nadana continued to play them. Suddenly, the presenter of Otto e Mezzo also teased her Russian colleague: “It’s hard to believe that what you’re telling us isn’t true a lot of propagandasince the television you work for is owned by the Russian Ministry of Defense, which is central at a stage of the war: “The confrontation then moved to freedom of the press and freedom of expression. We have an open debate, this type of discussion would be in Russia unthinkable, commented Gruber. Matching opinions, fiery but respectful tones. No meeting place.
#half past eight Nadana Fridrikhson, the Russian journalist who denies the war: “Special military operation, not war”. And Lilli Gruber replies: “We continue to see a war” https://t.co/f2qfQeGA5o
La7 (@ La7tv) April 12, 2022