A new chapter from Ariana Grande's life begins with eternal sunshine.
“I think it's very different in a lot of ways,” Grande, 30, said while joining the Zach Sang Show on the Amazon Music channel on Twitch. In the first part of the interview, posted on Tuesday, February 27, Grande told Sang, 30, that she doesn't like to “do the same thing twice” and that her new album shows “different parts of me.” It’s very close to my heart, but it’s my favorite version of it – does that make sense?”
Eternal Sunshine is Grande's first album since 2020's Positions and her first since her divorce from Dalton Gomez. Grande and Gomez, 28, tied the knot in May 2021 after a year of dating. In July 2023, amid reports of a breakup, Us Weekly confirmed that the two had been separated for months. Grande filed for divorce in October.
At the same time, the public learned about Grande's split from Gomez and there was news about her romance with her “Wicked” co-star Ethan Slater. Slater, 31, filed for divorce from his estranged wife. Lilly Jayshortly after he and Grande's relationship made headlines, although an insider told us that he and Grande were separated from their respective partners when they first started dating.
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Given the drama that led to this new album, Grande explained that this new album is one of her “most emotional” and personal works – while also “saying everything and nothing at the same time.”
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“Eternal Sunshine” is a concept album
Grande said her album was “incredibly human” as it connected to her life and the “heartache” of her divorce from Gomez after two years of marriage. “But,” she added, “it also touches on Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, so it's kind of a concept album, which is something I've never done before.” That's also why I didn't release a second single before the album “I want to release it because I would like to hear it in one piece.”
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“Eternal Sunshine” came from Ariana Grande’s heart – and it’s super “emotional”
“It says everything and nothing at the same time. “It's very vague and very specific – all at once,” she said during the interview, telling Sang that “Eternal Sunshine was definitely the most emotional writing process.” Secure.”
Ariana Grande knows people read between the lines
When composing the songs for “Eternal Sunshine,” Grande said she did “multiple passes” of them “to provide some kind of protection” because she wrote some of them when she was “very emotional.” And then some of them were more, you know, there are bops that are more fun – but actually even [making] Some of the bops made me cry while writing them.”
“The beauty of it was when I was writing [Eternal Sunshine]“It wasn’t the intention for the world to know,” Grande said. “I just kind of was [like], 'Let's just go. Let's see what comes out of it.” And then when I finished it occurred to me that people hear it and sometimes they sensationalize things and assign meaning to certain things. And I wanted to make sure — I went through it just to make sure it was what I intended.”
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Red is the color of Grande's Eternal Sunshine era
The color red “looks like music to me,” Grande said, noting that it also reminds her of the color of Clemintines (Kate Winslet) Hair in the eternal sunshine of the flawless mind. Grande also acknowledged the “emotional tone” of the “bold” red, which is the color of her feelings at the moment.
Why did she embrace the “eternal sunshine of the spotless mind”?
Grande noted that the phrase “eternal sunshine of the spotless mind” is taken as “so optimistic,” but noted that “that's the irony of what it means.” “Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind” is “ignorance is bliss.” . I will eradicate all evil to enter this eternal bliss.”
“But it’s really sad,” she noted of the “selective deletion” of certain things. “I loved it because it's beautiful and it's like 'Eternal Sunshine', which is what we all want. We want to experience eternal sunshine, but it's also the irony that drew me to it.” Although the album is full of “bops,” Grande said that “there's a lot of pain in the album.”
“'Eternal Sunshine' is not a 'F–k You' album”
“Even in the moments when I was heartbroken or most hurting over the last few years, there was so much kindness. There was so much love. There was so much honesty, transparency and respect. So even in the hardest moments of loss and grief that you express on the album, some of the heartbreaking things, there was so much love and transparency. That was something I really wanted to capture. It wasn’t like a ‘f*k you’ at all.”
Grande told Sang, who got an early preview of Eternal Sunshine, that “even with track number two [“bye”]I tried to make sure it was kind and there was recognition for the attempt and for the kindness that was there.”
She admitted that trying to maintain the emotional rawness of her feelings and have perspective was “a difficult balance” as many of the songs on her new album came from sessions in which she wrote in a more “emotional and reactive” way. However, she emphasized that these reactions are also “very human.” That’s why I didn’t want to delete everything.”
Don't expect AI in Eternal Sunshine
Speaking about being “human,” Grande said she finds it “terrifying” to hear AI versions of herself. When asked how people have used programs to recreate their voice, Grande asked, “What do we do?” What? Why? I hate it!”
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“It’s terrifying,” she added, at the idea of being reproduced and manipulated by a machine. Expect only the real thing on their new LP.
Eternal Sunshine will be released on March 8th via Republic Records.