Intense back and forth A clean swing (La7) between Moni Ovadia and Claudio Cerasa on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The editor of Il Foglio accuses the Jewish artist of not condemning Hamas Which terrorist group, but Ovadia asks the journalist his question: “You use the typical one Western rhetoric. If Israel has the right to defend itself, I ask you: Does Israel even have the right to occupy Palestinian land?“.
Cerasa doesn’t answer.
Ovadia insists: “Does Israel have this right?”
New silence from the editor of Il Foglio and Ovadia continues: “Why doesn’t Israel withdraw from Palestinian territories to demonstrate that it is ready to negotiate?” NO, Israel never wanted a Palestinian statenor the two-person, two-state solution. AND Hamas is the consequence of Israeli politics. The Palestinians in the Gaza Strip – he explains – live in a state of intense siege: energy, water and even their registration depend on Israel. So what was the withdrawal from Gaza? It’s a scam. The problem is colonization, occupation and segregation. Everything else is re-to-ri-ca”.
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Cerasa repeats his question and accuses Ovadia of not answering Hamas.
And the author replies: “Cerasa, I would like to hear from you thatPLO have recognized the State of Israel by agreeing to a deal for 22% of historic Palestine, and Israeli governments have shown no willingness to do so. In fact, they sent 800,000 settlers. What does this have to do with defending Israel? Israel has always wanted to erase Palestinian identity itself. Go live as a Palestinian in Gaza or the West Bank for a few months. And then come and tell me something“.
The editor of Il Foglio repeats that Ovadia does not respond and receives a reprimand Laura Boldrini: “You didn’t answer Ovadia’s question either.”
The artist apologizes and replies: “Colonized and oppressed peoples have the right to defend themselves. And all peoples under the colonial yoke use terrorism. The Israeliswhen they fought English, they committed terrorist attacks. I’ll tell you about it Irgun Tzvai Leumi – he adds – a consciously terrorist organization that even hid weapons in schools and kindergartens. I am against terrorist violence, but when you have no alternative and you are suffocating every minute…”
“There are no buts,” Cerasa interrupts.