Heated controversy a To broadcast (A7) between the physical Karl Rovelli and the journalist Corriere della Sera, Massimo Francoabout the war in Ukraine.
Rovelli, known for his positions against arms sales to Kiev, begins: “In Ukraine there is a catastrophe, there is a horror, and I think every sane person condemns Russiajust like I think any sane person would judge me Saudi Arabia bombs Yemenwhat have you done many more dead than in Ukraine. Nevertheless On Italian television I only see pictures from Ukraine, never from Yemen“.
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Conte: “What separates M5s and Pd? The Democrats are the establishment party: they are more dogmatic about Europe and the Atlantic.
The physicist adds: “All people of good will should look at these catastrophes with horror and at the same time ask our rulers that the goal is that there will be no more wars. As the Finnish President said, do you want to win the war or do you want peace? Why When everyone wants peace, peace will come. But if everyone wants to win, war will be waged. I want peace – he emphasizes – and I think that most Ukrainians actually want peace first of all. I think peace is possible. And I want my country to behave like most countries in the worldor Austria, Switzerland, Brazil, Irelandthat is, strongly condemning Russian aggression, but at the same time working to end the war, not win it.”
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Rovelli then branded the analogy between Russia and the Nazis as simplistic: “Too Saddam Hussein he was considered a villain, worse than a Nazi, and therefore he had to be destroyed”.
But Franco disagrees: “You can’t say that. It was in Ukraine armed attack on a defenseless countrythe responsibilities are also clear under international law. You cannot quote Saddam Hussein, they are very different things.”
The physicist countered: “In your opinion, whenever there is aggression against a country, is it a good idea for the other countries to take up arms to intensify the war?”.
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“In my opinion, yes – replies the journalist – especially when the aggression is against a democratic country that just asked for entry Europe and which is being invaded to prevent its entry into the EU and teach the whole West a lesson”.
Rovelli responds, resorting to exaggeration, as he himself specifies: “So would it have been reasonable for Italy to send arms to Saddam Hussein to defend against American aggression? Or send weapons to Afghanistan and Libya. They will tell me things are different.”
Franco blurts out: “No, Professor, I’m not answering yours rather puzzling little provocations. However, go ahead. I didn’t provoke, she provokes in a rather embarrassing way. So I won’t answer you.”