There was a violent clash yesterday afternoon Tagada (La7) between the journalist from Corriere della Sera, Maria Teresa Meliand the deputy director of The truth, Francesco Borgonovobefore Israel began its land invasion Gaza Strip.
Borgonovo criticizes the Israeli strategy and says it is absurd to think of its eradication Hamas from Gaza: “In the meantime Hamas is not ISIS, despite what many say is ridiculousIn fact, he even fought against ISIS. Hamas is a political movement that is part of the institutions and has even negotiated with Israel – he continues – Netanyahu He specifically said that it was appropriate to favor Hamas in order to weaken the Palestinian Authority. In my opinion, The solution now is to stop the bombing. And then a political solution is needed.”
Meli takes a completely opposite opinion: “The ceasefire solution that Borgonovo is demanding is the same one that Hamas wants.” Neither Europe nor the US are calling for a ceasefire, but rather a pause on humanitarian grounds. Only Hamas is calling for a ceasefire, those who will demonstrate for peace tonight (yesterday, editor’s note), and those who are pro-Hamas and will demonstrate tomorrow (today, editor’s note). . In these demonstrations – he adds – the slogan is “ceasefire” and it is there Support for Guterres’ words justifying Hamas. And you, Borgonovo, cannot demand a ceasefire because it is the same game they played with it poor Zelensky to force him to vomit with his hands and feet Putin“.
He then attacks the Italian press and media: “We are now talking about 50 hostages killed by the Israelis.” Let’s laugh. I mean, what kind of damn information are we talking about 50 hostages killed by Israeli bombs? And who is the source of our information? Hamas? And do we believe in Hamas?”
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Borgonovo objects: “It seems to me a bit difficult to deny that Israel has dropped over 6,000 bombs on Gaza and its surroundings. And it wasn’t Hamas who said that, but Israel, which also boasted about it. It’s not clear how far you want to go, so there are no conversations. What do we do then? Do we let all the hostages die and not care about the civilians?”
“On October 7th there was a pogrom that we hadn’t seen for dozens of years,” answers Meli. “We have to start with that, otherwise we’ll be fooling ourselves.” In recent days, Israel has done nothing but negotiate, and in fact it seems to me that it has long been stopped at the gates of Gaza. Israel does not invade Gaza and does not allow negotiations precisely because of the hostages that are in the hands of Hamas. Israel doesn’t do anything, so the ceasefire story is pretty ridiculous“.
Borgonovo responds by saying that his colleague writes selective history (“You start with a date and go from there if there is a whole story before it”) and adds: “They say that Israel has done nothing in the last days , But If 6,000 bombs in Gaza are nothing to you, that’s fine. Maybe it’s bombs that save lives, like the weapons we sent Zelensky to Ukraine. Nothing happened there either.”
And Meli blurts out: “Do you realize what you’re saying? They justify what Hamas did.”
“No – replies Borgonovo – at the end of the day you say: who cares about others when they die?”
“That’s not true,” replies the Corriere journalist.
“But yes – reiterates Borgonovo – because you said that nothing has happened in the last 20 days.”