Hot clash on the show “The Air That Pulls” (La7) between the former interior minister, Marco Minnitand the speaker for Power to the people, Giorgio Cremaschion the conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
The trade unionist appealed for desertion from the war, arousing resistance from Minniti, who commented: “If there is anyone who wants to limit your freedom, Cremaschi declares that we must desert. On the other hand, I appeal to fight for freedom. If I don’t desert, I’ll fight for his freedom. On the other hand, if I deserted, you would be less free. I hope you understand that and that you understand that you cannot always rely on others to fight for you.
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“Minniti’s is one war propaganda – Cremaschi states – We must leave the war instead, because this conflict becomes the third world war. I ask Minniti: Where does his fight for freedom end? Will it stop before the third world war?”.
“The challenge stops by making a negotiated – Minniti replies – I don’t think anyone will achieve that third world warnaturally we cannot rule it outbecause we are facing an intruder, an autocrat”.
Cremaschi insists, “Here, that’s the point: you can’t rule out World War III. But do you understand?”.
Minniti, repeatedly harassed by the politician of popular power, replies: “We must apply maximum pressure Putin because you accept a real negotiation. Then I realize she’s very used to fighting from her home studio and less busy fighting for freedom. Anyhow, anyhow I fight for his freedom“.
“I’m not used to the Third World War,” Cremaschi replies.
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The controversy explodes when Minniti lists Russian crimes in Ukraine, blurting out with Cremaschi, “You can’t decide what Ukrainians have to do. I worry because the longer the war lasts, the harder it will be to make peace because there are dead people, the martyrs, the 25,000 people who died there Mariupolbarricaded the more than 600 wounded in the cellars of the steelworksAzovstal. Yesterday there was a call for the evacuation of the injured from Mariupol. Do you share this appeal? And if you share this appeal, don’t desert. Tell Putin today that these people can be healed.”
“But you say it, who was a minister‘ Cremaschi replies.
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“Do you understand that this is your story? – Minniti continues – Don’t forget it. It is the history of the left, not what it is doing now. The left has never deserted in its history. Do you understand what the problem is? Do you understand that?”.
Cremaschi replies: “You are a defense industry manager! You are a representative of the Leonardo Foundation, formerly Finmeccanicahe should be more careful when speaking and have a little more modesty”.