Hot clash a coffe break (La7) between Francesca AlbaneseSpecial Rapporteur of theU.N. on the human rights situation Palestinian territories occupied since 1967 and the leader of We moderate, Maurizio Lupi.
The MP defends the right to self-defense Israelrejected the definition of “genocide” against the Palestinians and not too implicitly accused the United Nations of poor monitoring of humanitarian aid in Gaza: “I would like to understand whether the United Nations had observed in all the years before how they were used by them.” Hamas and these terrorist funds. I remember it There are terrorist bases among the bombed hospitals. I am not justifying what happened, but we must have a clear judgment as to why Now calling Israel terrorists is a disgrace“.
The host agrees with him Andrea Pancani the Albanese asks what the UN has done to ensure that in recent years “the huge amount of aid that has arrived in Gaza is not turned into Hamas tunnels and weapons.”
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Voices from Gaza – “In the north, people are left to die and there is no longer any media coverage. “Many bodies are still lying under the rubble.”
The lawyer answers: “There are very strict controls and there is a report that goes every 6 months to the USA, which until a few years ago was the largest donor to UNRWA (United Nations Agency for the Relief and Employment of Palestinian Refugees). Middle East, ed.). It is absolute nonsense for the United Nations to funnel funds to Hamas. It is very dangerous to say certain things, especially in this delicate situation. The aid did not go to Hamas.”
Lupi shakes his head and Albanese asks the politician: “Then bring me the evidence. Here we are talking about facts. And there is no proof. His claims about the presence of command bases among the hospitals were also rejected by the same journalists who covered the Israeli military operation against the hospital Al Shifa. But the tunnels have always been there Where was the Hamas command base in this destroyed hospital? There wasn't“.
And he adds: “In reality, Hamas would not have become a threat today, nor would it have been as strong, if it had not been there.” 16 years of Israeli siege. I do not claim to change the viewpoint of those in the studio, but for the sake of those at home, I ask you, Let's talk about proven facts, otherwise it will become misinformation“.
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Francesca Albanese: “Accusing those who demand peace and justice of anti-Semitism betrays the lesson we should have learned from the Holocaust.”
“He has the same opinion as me – replies Lupi, who repeats his criticism of the United Nations and accuses Albanese of “hiding the truth” – However, the facts are dramatically clear to everyone. If they come to your home, kill your children, burn your children, or cut off your head, how will you react?”
“Before October 7 – replies Albanese – there were five wars in Gaza that claimed thousands of lives, including 1,000 Palestinian children. If the violence unleashed by Hamas against Israelis on October 7 should justify what Israel is doing, then this should be an argument that Hamas's response was proportionate. Certainly not my topic, but please, Let's stop making people believe that the horror in Palestine began on October 7th, because it didn't“.