Megyn Kelly criticized Joy Reid after the MSNBC host criticized the Moms for Liberty co-founder for supporting a ban on a book containing graphic sex from schools.
The host of the “Megyn Kelly Show” said Reid was so frustrating after the interview.'
“I don't want to know about Joy Reid's strange sexual preferences or what she thinks is OK for minors, but it's not the same as what I think,” she said.
“And if she wants to expose her child to this stuff, she can just do it on her own time and on her own dime.”
The commentator also hit back at Reid for asking the judge for her “expertise” in questioning the appropriateness of the memoir “All Boys Aren't Blue,” a title that has been banned in 29 counties across the country.
“What is your expertise to make the case that a book about strap-on dildos, pedophilia, or anal rape by a family member does not belong in K-12 libraries and schools?” Kelly asked.
Megyn Kelly criticized Joy Reid after the MSNBC host criticized the Moms for Liberty co-founder for speaking out in favor of banning a book containing graphic sex from schools
MSNBC host Joy Reid (left) and Moms for Liberty co-founder Tiffany Justice (right) clashed over book bans during an interview Friday
Reid had asked Justice: “What expertise do you and other Moms for Liberty advocates have? They have to decide that a book, an award-winning book… is not appropriate for student reading.”
Justice shot back: “In what context is a public school strap-on dildo acceptable, that's my question to you.”
Reid refused to answer that question, instead claiming that the justices were unable to name the author, George M. Johnson. Justice actually knew the author's first name.
Kelly noted that studies have been conducted to show why this material is unsuitable for children.
“There are countless scientific articles and books about the harm done to children when they are exposed to such content too early,” she said.
“And most good parents are very careful that our kids don't have access to those things.” We lock their phones if they have phones… all of that and the last thing you want to think about is when you're sending them to school that they are most dangerous there.
That’s when they’re most exposed to stories about anal rape and strap-on dildos.”
Kelly insisted that books like this not be brought into schools with tax dollars when my child might be sitting right next to his child reading a beautiful book about love, about bullies, about history. It’s absurd to pretend it’s a ban because you can’t get it in the school library!”
Johnson's “Memoir Manifesto” includes a chapter dealing with sexual abuse he suffered as a child, including at the hands of a member of his own family. It contains graphic descriptions of sex, including lubricants, dildos, and anal penetration.
On The Megyn Kelly Show, the host said Reid was 'so frustrating' after the interview.
Reid questioned Justice about her expertise and her parental rights. The judge responded, “I don’t have to be an expert to know that dildos are not appropriate for public schools.”
Reid told Justice during the interview, “What I want to tell you is that you are not an expert on this book.”
Justice responded, “I don’t have to be an expert to know that dildos are not appropriate for public schools. I mean, let’s be honest.”
Reid asked why a parent whose child might feel seen by this story shouldn't have the right to let them read it.
Justice responded that if a child feels like they are being seen by this story, it means they have been a victim of a predator.
Reid then again accused her of pretending to be an expert and demanded that she provide evidence that a child had been raped.
A central chapter of All Boys Aren't Blue focuses on the sexual abuse that author Johnson experienced when he was about 13 years old.
In September, Senator John Kennedy read a passage from the memoir during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.
Quoting the book verbatim, he told the hearing: “I applied some lube, got him on his knees and started sliding into him from behind.” I pulled out of him and kissed him while he masturbated. He asked me to turn around while he put a condom on.
“That was my ass and I had trouble imagining anyone inside me.” He climbed on top and slowly pushed himself inside me. It was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. “At one point I felt a mixture of joy and pain.”
During the MSNBC interview, the two discussed an “opt-out form” available in Broward County, Florida, that allows parents to say their child cannot check out books from the library without their permission.
The book at the center of the debate was “All Boys Aren't Blue” by George M. Johnson, which was banned in 29 school districts
Moms for Liberty was added to the Southern Poverty Law Center's list of “hate and anti-government groups” in June. Pictured is Tiffany Justice (left) speaking to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on July 15, 2022
“Maybe we can just include all the books with all the graphic sexual content, the dildos, the rape,” Justice said.
Reid said, “I'm so sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. “I've seen tapes of what Moms For Liberty is doing, and you all go to school board meetings and read graphic stuff.”
Justice said, “Joy, this is a disingenuous conversation. “We used to know in America that there was such a thing as age-appropriate content.”
In June, Moms for Liberty was added to the Southern Poverty Law Center's list of “hate and anti-government groups” after it received national media attention for its efforts to combat COVID safety measures in schools, book bans and limit discussions about Race and LGBTQ gained identities and populate local school boards with conservatives.
The group's other co-founder, Bridget Ziegler, was asked to resign from the Sarasota school board after her husband, Christian Ziegler, was accused of raping a woman “who was part of their ménage-a-trois.”